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Went and saw WALL-E at the Alameda Theater last night and was forced to watch a 15 minute propaganda reel. Actually it was two. One was the usual "Welcome to the new restored Alameda Theater please turn off you cell phone, no texting be quiet etc". which I didn't mind. but what followed was ARGH. It some ways it was suppose to be a history lesson, which is kind of cool, but it made it sound like (which they repeated over and over and OVER again) that unless we accept the monolith that is the megaplex the theater would have been torn down. I was getting so annoyed that I nearly walked out of the theater and demanded my money back. If it wasn't WALL-E and just some random movie (which I haven't done in a long time, being tickets at $9.50 a piece) I would have.
(and for opening night for a Pixar movie, it was quiet empty, I guess the novelty of the theater is starting to wane)
(and for opening night for a Pixar movie, it was quiet empty, I guess the novelty of the theater is starting to wane)
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Sat, June 28, 2008 - 5:23 PMTHis is just bad. I'm not against the theater per-se, but no one has come even close to convincing me that it's viable economically. And if it DOES fail, well, wouldn't it have been easier to knock down the old single screen building than it will be this new beast, as well as it's parasitic parking lot? The words "urban blight" come to mind.
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Sat, June 28, 2008 - 9:19 PMthere was a long line outside the theater this afternoon, presumably for WALL-E
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Sat, June 28, 2008 - 10:31 PMI actually enjoyed the short feature.
A short, a cartoon, and a feature film all for the price of a ticket, such a deal.
The truth is that, without the extra screens, a single screen theatre the size of the Alameda would not be financially viable, and the option would have been to sub-divide the theatre into a 6 or seven screens like th UA in berkeley, (which I consider one of the worst places to see a movie in the bay area.)
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Sun, June 29, 2008 - 9:01 AMI've been to a few movies at the new theater so far and am really grateful to have it in town. Obviously they put a lot of time and money into makining it beautiful and appealling physically. Though I don't generally go see films for $9.50 a pop, at least this new theater is trying to offer us a grand experience in return.
Are we better off with an empty building standing there? Don't think so. Also Park Street needs a sexy new way to attract additional shoppers to the area right now in order to support the locally-owned independent businesses there. The razzle-dazzle of the new Southshore Towne Centre and abundant free parking there could be a big drain on the Park St. community otherwise.
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Sun, June 29, 2008 - 10:22 AMI do like the theater (not the megaplex) and always supported the theater and believe it or not, I supported a SMALLER scale addition and parking structure. I have been to the theater twice now. but the short reeked of propaganda.
A) it omitted the dance club that was there from the mid 80 to 90s, a decade of business. who did both alternative dance nights and big band swing nights. Except the person who ran the clubs sued the city for racisms and won (he wanted to start a KMEL jams night or something similar and the city shut him down)
b) although they repeated the "the cinaplex is needed" they never actually SHOW the whole thing. nor the parking garage, only the marquee or a drawing, or a sliver next to the theater.
c) it was very condescending to the people who were against the megaplex.
d) they don't mention that the city budget is now in $40 million in debt because of this unstable project. but yet they do mention that the movie business is now unstable because of home movies.
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Sun, June 29, 2008 - 11:00 AMThe problem is really more that for the theater to remain viable, people will need to come in from the East Bay and that is going to take some sort of massive city rebranding because, as it stands now, very few people even think of this city when considering a liesure a destination. My experience has been that very few people even know where Alameda is.
The theater's gorgeous, but that's a lot of infrastructure to support.
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Tue, July 1, 2008 - 9:16 AMBadger just showed me the following from the Alameda Daily News (www.alamedadailynews.com/) yesterday:
"Monday, June 30, 2008
Bad Experience for Patrons of Alameda Theater
Editor,
I went with friends Saturday to the noon matinee of "Wall-E" at the Alameda Theater. When we arrived, the box office was supposed to be open, but was unstaffed. The lines for tickets and entry were crossed so that no one could access the automatic credit card ticket machine, either.
Eventually, that was all sorted out and we were let inside. After paying nearly $40 for tickets, a bottle of water and two boxes of candy, we and several other families asked and were told we could go and watch the movie from the balcony; who wouldn't want to see it from there?
Once we were settled, another employee told us we had to move. When I asked why, I was informed by the employee that "It is too much hassle for us to allow people to sit in the balcony."
When the previews and the short began, the projector was out of focus. Someone attempted to fix it, but never quite got it right. Nevertheless, the movie started and was quite enjoyable for everyone in attendance despite the soft focus.
At one of the most crucial moments of the film, during the last reel, the projector stopped dead. For 20 minutes, the lights came up. No one from the staff said anything or acknowledged the problem; many people got frustrated and left.
Eventually, without notice, the movie restarted .... and promptly stopped again. Finally, whomever was running the projector fixed the problem (and, the focus, as well!) and the last reel played out, and then stopped again, during the credits.
At this point, it was too much; we left. I attended a showing of Indiana Jones when the theater first opened, and was disappointed then at the mismanagement of the crowds, concession and audio, but just chalked it up to first week jitters. However, at this point of operation, this sort of circus is inexcusable. Shame on the people running this joke of a cinema; you all need some management training and a competent staff. The theater itself may be beautiful, but everything else about it stinks.
We will not patronize the Alameda Theater again. As island homeowners and taxpayers, we are deeply disappointed that this white elephant was such a waste of our taxes. We will be watching our movies at home, at the Central, or other non-Alameda theaters.
Adam Gillitt" -
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Tue, July 1, 2008 - 11:48 PMWhen I went to see Sex and the City it was out of focus for almost the entire movie. I figured it was because they had only been open a couple weeks. I hope they get their act together, since it's the only theater we have now since Central Cinema is closed.
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Wed, July 2, 2008 - 1:57 PMI agree regarding the condescending bits of the propaganda reel (not to mention the nightmarishly weird talking food). I am a huge fan of old movie palaces - so I was dang glad to see this one saved (although I am still peeved about the giant parking structure). I went to see WALL-E last Monday. I think the company/management running the theater are still getting their act together but they aren't quite there yet. I'm more than a little surprised that there are still these kinds of problems and am hoping they get ironed out. Despite my other misgivings I do love that we have a movie theater on the island and that such a beautiful place was restored. I just hope the experience of seeing movies there can be brought up to the standards of the environment. -
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Tue, July 8, 2008 - 9:50 AMI've only seen one movie there (the hideously inane "Wanted).
-I missed the opening reel because we were slightly late.
-Movie was in focus.
-Upstairs concession stand was not open when we went in (noonish show) but open when we came out.
-Seats and sound were nice.
-Huge line for WALL-E.
Other thoughts..
-I'm excited for Burgermeister.
-It's close enough for us to walk to the theater, which allows me to feel smugly proud of myself.
-I now realize that I live close enough to walk to Park Street, get plowed, go see a movie and go home. No driving, no DUI.
-Like most things, it's not perfect. But like many things, it ends up being a net-positive. I seriously doubt it'll end up an "urban blight".
-Alameda is alread rebranding itself. I have seen ads for the theater and restaurants on Park Street. There are not too many friendly neighboorhood pedestrian High Streets left in the East Bay.
If the theater was smart they'd do promotions with LaP, HobNob and the ilk. Most boring people like me are looking for a place to walk around, eat and watch a flick all in one stop. JLS is not that kind of place (and is failing), Emeryville is so commerical it makes me retch and Berkeley is a little too busy for my taste. Piedmont Ave is Park Street's only main competition. -
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Wed, July 9, 2008 - 12:39 PMJLS? I'm missing the reference.
I actually went to Piedmont with my family a few months ago (had dinner and saw "Juno"), and we ended up coming back to Park St. after the movie, because it's a more pleasant walk than Piedmont after dark and most of the shops (particularly bookstores) are open later.
I've only seen "Indiana Jones" (a week after it opened) at the new theater. I like it, and want to see something in the big theater. -
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Thu, July 10, 2008 - 6:18 PM<<JLS = Jack London Square >>
Ahhhh...
*silent "D'oh"*
(I wasn't gettin' it, either, Beth)
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 8:24 PMHey All!
Relatively new to Alameda (5 months) and new to this board. I can understand the annoyance at the 15 minute documentary. It was cute the first weekend, but it gets old quick....and it is long. However, I love the theater. I am a film guy and see about 3-4 films a week (either via the theater, netflix, HBO, On Demand, etc. ) so I absolutely love having the theater so close. I always hated having to go to Emeryville or somewhere else to see a film. Plus I theater the theater is really beautiful. They need to work on their queuing system, which I'm sure they will get in time, but I think the theater is fantastic.
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Sun, July 20, 2008 - 9:46 PMI wanted to hate the theatre, but after seeing a couple of movies there I just can't. In spite of the technical glitches the projectionists have been having lately too, I'm kinda glad they restored it. The lobby and main theatre are beautiful.
They could have done a better job matching the facade of the extension to the original structure, but it could have been worse.
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Wed, July 30, 2008 - 4:27 PMThe reason they keep having the technical glitches is because they aren't hiring union projectionists. Anybody else see the pickets? Being in the movie industry, that was really the last straw for me.
I really really wanted to like this theater. I was excited it was opening, all that. I went after the first opening weekend to find that the times on the internet and the actual showtimes were completely different, and no one seemed to have any idea what was going on. (ok, first week jitters, I can deal). Went to an upstairs theater, the floors are boomy and the acoustics aren't quite right... I may be the only person to notice that, alright. The screen in theater nine isn't hung right. That giant shiny spot in the middle of the screen? Thats cause the screen was hung incorrectly.. starting to irritate me. The bottom half of the frame was out of focus the entire film. The people with me did not notice.
Yeah I'm more picky than most. I decided to give them a shot, and have been to see four films since then. I love the fact that I can walk there. I don't love the concession employees who yammer to each other the entire time while their lines build up, the bad sound set ups and the fact that EVERY SINGLE MOVIE I have seen there has has focus/projector issues.
Lets not even get started on the idiotic planning with the parking lot pay kiosks.